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ec55569 said:
honestly, there is no such thing as either of them being better… Its all in the way each of us perceive them
yaknow? its all basic opinion. Like myself, i think eminem is better. Others disagree
but for us to sit here, debating and insulting others just cuz they think different
is pretty pointless yaknow?
true story
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9:55 pm
November 12, 2008
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Ca$h Flow
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hahaha, this is a cute lil argument you guys have goin on, but imma go ahead and lay down the facts cuz i study hip-hop artists and produce music for a livin. Most of the rap/hip-hop artists today are extemely talented lyrically, but im gonna have to say, according not only to what i've heard myself, but according to other poeples opinions and industry statistics, that the following are the six most lyrical rapper alive
1. Eminem
2. Tech N9ne
3. Lupe Fiasco
4. Cannibus
5. Ludacris
6. Lil Wayne (I know, I know, as much as I hate to put him on the list, it's the straight truth)
I know its a fine line between em and tech, but there is one major point that distinguishes the two artists and thats word use. Tech, in almost every verse he throws down, ceases to amaze me with his lyrics and flow, but Em is able to do the same thing, but with one major difference. . . he doesnt say “Nigga”. A lot of people think “Nigga” is controversial in music, i'd have to say that all depends on who's listening, but it is pure truth that the word helps dramatically when flowin or writin cuz it's universal and can be used to link bars easily make flow sound better. So, If Tech could pull a Chamillionare and drop an entire album w/o sayin “Nigga” once on his cd, i'd probably set him equal to Em.
Also, for those of you who haven't seen or heard Em at the 1997 Rap Olympics, check it out here, I think it will definately change ur perspective on Em in freestyle battles.
Well, I think i've summed up my point pretty well, but if anyone feels any different, speak up, i'm always happy to hear other opinions!
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10:37 pm
November 12, 2008
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alex_delarge
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haha the point of this thread isn't to “argue” or really even debate.
I personally just love talking to other emcees or producers or anyone who studies hip-hop like Cashflow does, because it's entertaining(for me at least) to hear others opinions. Especially when talking about which two rappers are greater.
Here's my reason why I pick Tech:
Who, in the industry, mainstream or underground, sounds like Tech as far as style and overall sound goes? Yeah, you can say he raps fast like Twista or Bone Thugs, but honestly I think Tech's style is the most original I've ever heard. For example, if you listen to The Game & Ice Cube; Two completley different rappers, but their music has the familiar West Coast sound. I don't think theres anyone who can be compared to him as far as sound goes.
And have you paid attention to his rhyming structure?? Holy shit….
If want to know what I'm talking about listen to the song “Monster.” Off of Vintege Tech.
Anyways…
As to what Youngcam was saying, I agree with what you said about Shady, including that he deserves to be in anyone's top five. Please, keep the opinions coming, I think I'm enjoying this the most.
And Cashflow, you're completely right about the “nigga” thing. That's why I don't use it, or profanity at all. But…
Lupe Fiasco? Really? You kind of ruined my day when you listed him lol. Am I deaf or something? I'm not going to discredit him and say he sucks because he doesn't. I feel what he's trying to do, I just don't think he reaches it. I couldn't even make it half-way through his sophomore album…
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10:46 pm
November 12, 2008
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alex_delarge
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zimri said:
Eminem wasn't that good of a battler. He has awesome freestyles but the battles I've seen of him aint that good and he uses some punchlines again in different battles. but as far as music is concerened em is way better!
749 battles undefeated.
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11:09 pm
November 12, 2008
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Spadez
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Em aint undefeated,didnt he lose at Rap Olympics? and sorry Cash but i gotta disagree with you,Lil Wayne is one of the shittiest rappers i have ever listened too.Everyone i know says that his songs Amilli and Lolipop were great songs and that he had awsome lyrics on it,they both sucked.Yall buy too much into that commercial rap shit,Lil Wayne is one of the fakest,and most retarded,mother fuckers out there.seriously who the fuck shoots themself in the chest? lmfao come on.
for my top 5 lyrical rappers i have to go with.
1.Ikon The Verbal Hologram (Vinnie Paz of JMT)
2.Immortal Technique
3.Eminem
4.Jus Allah (of JMT)
5.Tech N9NE
I really suprised that no one mentioned Jedi Mind Tricks or Immortal Technique,Eminem would find a real challenge against all 3 of em.
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12:06 am
November 13, 2008
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alex_delarge
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asylum the wickid said:
Em aint undefeated,didnt he lose at Rap Olympics? and sorry Cash but i gotta disagree with you,Lil Wayne is one of the shittiest rappers i have ever listened too.Everyone i know says that his songs Amilli and Lolipop were great songs and that he had awsome lyrics on it,they both sucked.Yall buy too much into that commercial rap shit,Lil Wayne is one of the fakest,and most retarded,mother fuckers out there.seriously who the fuck shoots themself in the chest? lmfao come on.
for my top 5 lyrical rappers i have to go with.
1.Ikon The Verbal Hologram (Vinnie Paz of JMT)
2.Immortal Technique
3.Eminem
4.Jus Allah (of JMT)
5.Tech N9NE
I really suprised that no one mentioned Jedi Mind Tricks or Immortal Technique,Eminem would find a real challenge against all 3 of em.
I'm pretty sure that's because this thread is about Tech N9ne & Eminem.
But yeah, JMT are good, but I wouldn't compare them to these two beasts.
So far, I think I'm the only one that's “voted” for the gun haha.
And I meant it was 749 battles before Eminem lost. Because yes, he did get 2nd place in the Rap Olympics.
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9:12 am
November 13, 2008
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witchdocta
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1. Tech N9ne
2. Eminem
3. Chamillionare
4. T.I.
5. Ludacris
That's the top 5 best lyricists in my opinion. Tech n9ne has by far the best vocabulary out of anyone in the rap game, and his says shit that makes sense and doesn't bounce from topic to topic in his rhymes.
In a battle, Em would beat Tech, not gonna lie, but as far as lyricism.. Tech takes the cake.
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12:04 pm
November 16, 2008
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envoy
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yungcam614 said:
tech? nevvvvver! em will crush any fukkin rapper you name right now in a battle….yes anybody…wayne t.i ….JAY! yes in a battle type of scheme nobody is fukkin wit em….but NO! he's not better than jay im not saying that in any way….but in a battle em will destroy any fukkin rapper you name….tech fukkin sucks! yes i said it…he fukkin sucks!
Ima have to say Canibus could beat em when Canibus was at his top.
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12:09 pm
November 16, 2008
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parallelrhymes
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THANK YOU CASHFLOW…man I'm tired of everybody sleeping on Lupe Fiasco…he is way to ahead of his time to be recognized so its understandable…only one more album though LupEND
Be on the look out for GemStones new album and more FnF crew will be dropping early next year
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12:09 pm
November 16, 2008
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envoy
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My top 5 are as follows:
1.Rakim
2.Canibus
3.Eminem
4.Tech
5.Big Pun
And to the guy that studies hip-Hop, lmao, if you studied hip-hop you would have Rakim on the list and you wouldn't have lil wayne. Also, even though nobody likes him but when Canibus and LL battled, LL put a crazy response in the Can-I-Bus diss and that gave him respect, even though I don't like him at all.
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