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12:10 pm April 4, 2012
| 2Deep
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mattheworts said:
Post edited 12:02 pm - April 4, 2012 by mattheworts
2Deep said:
Have you ever heard of the saying “Go Hard Or Go Home”? Its goes for music too! You dont have to be rich to afford a License. You really expect us as producers to work for free? Im not trying to sound full of myself, but im WAY too far in the game to give shit for free. I've been providing beats for free download for people to make their tracks to for the past (maybe) 7 years… now tell me… WHY would I do this for free?
If you cant afford it, and really want to take this to the next level, get another job! Everybody has to start somewhere…. EVERYBODY. Its NOT easy, and everything does cost money!
And STFU with your top 40 BS. I've produced tracks that landed in the charts, even Nr.1 (MTV Germany), I work with legendary people, video game companies, etc… Stop complaining, if you think your good, and you can take your music to another level = buy a beat… If you think your no good, and dont have faith in yourself (or just want to do this as a straight hobby) then use the beats provided as free download. Simple as that.
Also, good luck trying to be the next katy perry, brittany spears, or lady gaga… Follow the leader! Thats a cool thing to do! lol………. Dumbass……
If you think we are “ripoffs”… PLEASE do yourself a favor, and stay out of the music industry, its most likely nothing for you, thats were youll find the REAL “ripoffs”.
This has got to be the GAYEST post ever on shadowville………. CONGRATS! LoL
To everybody else that supports us: Thank you! And keep working hard, thats the only way you can get places!
-2Deep
Lmao you make me laugh. First of all, never in my post did I say I was going to be the next Britney or Katy Perry. I was clearly stating examples. But thanks for the tip. I learned a valuable lesson today that will help me not to wind up in this predicament again, and that is doing the exact opposite of what you say. If I took your advice, of course I'll never make it in the industry. My voice coach works in show business and he's classically trained, and I know if he saw this post he'd agree with me that Shadowville and anyone that works for them are scams. And if you're so good, as it's clear you're all brag and no swag, tell me why it is you weren't aproached by a label to write, compose and arange songs for artists with those so-called beats you make that are so good? If your beats were that amazing you'd have record labels and managers of artists knocking at your door asking you to work with these artists. Second, anything that refers to “it” or “that” can't be gay. Not only is it improper grammar, it's also insensetive and hurtful twoards the LGBT community. Use proper grammar, because I can tell your grammar is clearly lacking. But if you want, I'll gladly play along. I'll tell you what's gay. What's gay is being manipulated and cheated out of money, and that's exactly what Shadowville does. If I work with you, you'll make your earnings, if and only if the song becomes a hit. If your intention is to just take my money and run and leave me here with a shitty track that most likely won't become a hit, then no. You won't get a cent from me. Here's how I work. My record sells, you get money. My record doesn't sell, you get nothing. It's called playing fair, something Shadowville's producers clearly don't know how to do
smh……… look up my credits…. and im not ONLY a member of Shadowville.
@jryd: Thx bro
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12:11 pm April 4, 2012
| 2Deep
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Dezi said:
“Here's how I work. My record sells, you get money. My record doesn't sell, you get nothing.”
So a producer who works hard at making beats, should get nothing, because YOU can't sell record, because YOU suck?
“ It's called playing fair, something Shadowville's producers clearly don't know how to do”
Playing fair? Were you somehow tricked into buying a beat? You're a pussy. STFU, pussy…
Haha, thats what i wanted to say in my last post, but i was like fuk it, ill just keep it short….. this guy wont understand that anyways thx.
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12:32 pm April 4, 2012
| mattheworts
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2Deep said:
Dezi said:
“Here's how I work. My record sells, you get money. My record doesn't sell, you get nothing.”
So a producer who works hard at making beats, should get nothing, because YOU can't sell record, because YOU suck?
“ It's called playing fair, something Shadowville's producers clearly don't know how to do”
Playing fair? Were you somehow tricked into buying a beat? You're a pussy. STFU, pussy…
Haha, thats what i wanted to say in my last post, but i was like fuk it, ill just keep it short….. this guy wont understand that anyways thx.
Wow. Calling me a pussy is the best you could do? All that and the only thing you have to say is I'm a pussy? Wow. I guess I'm right after all. You're nothing but ripoffs. And thanks for all the lessons I've learned today. I'll gladly continue my pursuit of the music industry somewhere else and I'll break into it by doing it the honest way. And btw I've got plenty music ability, as I've been singing since I was three years old and am currently studying for my music degree which will certify me as classically trained, so there. Sorry if I came across as full of myself but what the heck? You guys can do it so I can too. Bottom line, your beats suck. Nobody in their right mind, if I told them about Shadowville would ever come and preview and buy your shitty beats because thats how much they suck, and I'm not gonna let another person get ripped off. When any of your beats turn into top-selling albums and singles and win numorous grammies, which given America's poor taste for music that's the only way I see success happening for you, but anyway if it does, then come back to me and say I told you so. But even still, I would think the American public would know better than to buy a song from someone who gets their beats from Shadowville. I can bet if you ask around, most people would say they've never heard of Shadowville. This, amongst other things, would be the reason why.
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12:34 pm April 4, 2012
| jryd
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we fight for shadowville big success
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1:27 pm April 4, 2012
| Dezi
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Success big for shadowville!!
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1:32 pm April 4, 2012
| Ridikarus
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Post edited 1:33 pm - April 4, 2012 by Ridikarus
Ok, there is so much wrong with this guys argument, I'm not even going to begin to pick it apart piece by piece. Here are some of my opinions.
1. You want beats you dont have to pay for? Make your own. It takes time, energy, and a lot of hard ass NOSE TO THE GRINDSTONE FUCKIN WORK, to make it sound pro, but at the end of the day only you control it, and it will develop you as a artist.
2. You know how many people are trying to make it as producers and rappers these days, combined with how hip-hop at the moment is in a complete slump? How many hip-hop songs are even in the top 40 anyway? Who gives a shit if they are? Being in the charts doesn't make a song better or worse, its a measure of marketability. Thats another thing you have to do if you want to be popular: research and apply your product to that research.
3. That brings me to another point. Music is creativity and art, yes. But what you are generally talking about is called the MUSIC BUSINESS. Business requires investment, sacrifice and alot of labour and struggle. I spend hours, days, even weeks on one song, and I dont get any money for it, even though everyone I talk to thinks I'm dope.
4. Shadowvilles beats are not that expensive compared to what you could be paying for. You think if you could get Stoupe, or Dre, or any of the legendary producers that you know of to work with you, that it would be cheap? You must be fuckin kidding me. Heads like Dre charge $50,000 minimum to produce an album, unless you are on their label that is, then you share most of the profits with your producer anyway. This is the bargain barrel homie. Some of the amazing beats by 2deep and people up here are only $200. So if you want a 10 track album, $2000 is a great investment. If you dont have the money yet, wait until you do, and practice in the meantime. Nobody is gonna buy your album anyway if you dont:
Hand out promo tapes and songs for free in person and on the internet
send your tracks to radio stations to get real airplay
rock open mics and any other gigs you can, including rapping in the street and dealing with the fact that not everyone likes hip-hop, and not everyone likes you. You might even get punched in the face for it, like me 
sign up with every social networking site you can think of, and activley network at that.
Actually come hard as fuck. You have a lot of competition bro. You need to stand out.
It takes so much work for 2Deep, or HalaX, or anyone else up here to compose their beats from scratch to pro quality. So much time. The fact they are available for free download to practice on and leases is a FAVOR. These guys could just be contacting promising heads directly and probably making more money thatway. I think its a fair market.
Quit whinging and make shit happen, or quit, and do something else. You dont have to succeed in hip-hop for it to be a part of your life, and you dont have to be a rapper to be a “valid person.' Its ok to just be a fan. I'm sick of everybody on the planet saying they are a rapper and producer, complaining when I wont collab with them, getting mad at me if someone says they like my song better than theres. This shit is saturated with garbage.
Also SVP have over 50,000 facebook likes alone, and a wikipedia article. They are known well enough.
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3:01 pm April 4, 2012
| Slantize
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Rapstar Fly, please refer to the last slide below.
 
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Art is the Ability to Control Other’s Emotions With Your Mind.
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3:34 pm April 4, 2012
| p!!kk
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Post edited 3:36 pm - April 4, 2012 by p!!kk
i'll never purchase anything from mattheworts ever..
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4:09 pm April 4, 2012
| mattheworts
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There's a reason why hip-hop and rap is in the slump. The majority of the general public are sick of it. It's the same old same old crap. And no, I'm not a rapper, nor do I care about how hard it is for some random shmow on the street to rhyme talk a few words to a shitty beat. That's not talent. Most rap isn't talent. It doesn't take talent to belch the alphabet, and it clearly doesn't take any talent to spit out bloody ridiculous nonsense on a 3 minute song. The real talent is singing because you need to actually… um, oh i dunno, actually know how to sing! And, even if rapping was a talent to be respected, much of today's rappers aren't worthy of that respect from people because it's garbage. Most rap music today promotes prostitution, physical and mental violence and God knows what other vulgarities it promotes. The fact that some random punk on the street with an ego the size of Texas thinks he can just go in there and expect critical praise and commercial success just because of how sexy he looks is just disgusting. If rappers actually rapped about something meaningful that everyone could relate to, rather than how many times they smoked weed and stumbled out of bars and clubs drunk at 3 in the morning then maybe they'd sell more and maybe people would actually respect them. Most mainstream rappers today are very full of themselves and they walk around acting like they're the shit when in reality if us littler people with 9-5 jobs hadn't bought their songs and/or requested them to be played on the radio, they wouldn't've ever gotten as big as they are. Also, most rappers don't know how to stay true to themselves. Everyone is jumping on the dance pop band wagon, including these rappers. Why? Because they don't have careers. And why don't they have careers? Wow, let me think about that. Oh yeah. Because they suck! If they were humble people would like them more. If they rapped about things that were more relatable to young people like say for example, the struggles of being young, and how to cope with those who bully you, or to love yourself because you're beautiful or hansome just the way you are and not to let anyone make you feel bad about yourself. Stuff like that. Then they'd sell massive amounts and they'd be respected. Rappers influence a lot of young people today and in the wrong ways and people are getting sick of it. I know I certainly am. I'm sick of turning on the radio and I hear some lousy rapper try to sing and rap to some dance pop beat about how they stumbled out of a club and got a girl naked. I could go on and on about all the reasons why rap just isn't hot anymore. And sadly, it will never be. Maybe the young generation likes it but the rest of the public surely doesn't. So there ya go.
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4:31 pm April 4, 2012
| Ridikarus
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Ok, so your out of fuckin order kid. Freestyle rapping especially, is very challenging if you want it to make an impact on the listener. If you dont think so, I challenge you to step on a stage in front of a audience of of tough critics, and rhyme off the dome without stumbling, making sense, putting together metaphors, similes, and other figurative language to music, staying on beat, and having an overall message. Most people just cant do it. Your jealous.
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