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Downloading a beat before it’s ‘Unavailable’

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1:28 am
February 23, 2010


Filthy

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I was just wondering what happens when…


You download a beat, and then sometime later…. it becomes 'unavailable'… what does that mean then?


Especially for the person buying the beat, because they might purchase the license 6 months after the beat was made, and everyone could have the beat by then…

Just wondering, sorry if this is already mentioned somewhere…

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1:33 am
February 23, 2010


Dezi

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well if you download the beat you can not use it for profit, so nothing changes in that aspect.


 And as for the person who buys it, think how many people download and rap over famous instrumentals. There's far less people that come on this site download the beat and rap over it.

1:38 am
February 23, 2010


Filthy

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Yea, I get what you're saying…


Which brings me to this point, why can't we still download the beat if it's going to be used in a non-profit way?


It's just the reverse order… because I have some mad beats and I can't download them because they've been bought…

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1:42 am
February 23, 2010


Dezi

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Maybe because when someone buys a beat, its theirs and no longer belongs to shadowville… I know if I paid $1000 for a beat, and Slant still allowed people to DL it, I'd be pissed. That would bad for business.

2:45 am
February 23, 2010


Filthy

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But it's the same either way, if everyone DL's it… then someone buys it….they still have it… so it doesn't really make a difference… it just stops more people downloading it…which could make the buyer feel a little better, but heaps of people would still have the beat…

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2:57 am
February 23, 2010


Dezi

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But if shadowville sells EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS to a beat, that beat no longer belongs to shadowville. So if it doesnt belong to them, they no longer have the right to let ppl DL it…

3:08 am
February 23, 2010


Filthy

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Yea, I agree with you!


BUT, they still do not have exclusive rights! Because lots of other people still have the beat!


But, not trying to get into some trivial argument… just wanted to know

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3:19 am
February 23, 2010


p!!kk

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The reason F/D's are takin away after a beat is purchased is what Dezi said: “The instrumental no longer belongs to Shadowville.” If the buyer decided to throw it on a site for F/D, he has the ability to do that, but he cannot re-sell the raw instrumental for profit and credit would still be due on the 'production' side. But, what you're stressing is that you think because many people download the beat before it's bought, that they have the exact same copy someone who buys a lease or the exclusives would have. That's not right. The difference is the quality of instrumental (including track-separations) when the exclusive or lease is bought. Free-downloads are only exloaded, then uploaded to the site as less then 120kb/on an 6-8 dither. Anyone who's purchased exclusives, whether a non-exclusive lease or full license, will tell you the difference in sound quality between both.

3:24 am
February 23, 2010


Filthy

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Yea, didn't take that into consideration!


So you pretty much get the exclusive 'Good Quality' version…


And everyone else can still use the 'Average Quality' beat for non-profit use…


Fair call

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3:26 am
February 23, 2010


Dezi

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p.I.k.k. said:

The reason F/D's are takin away after a beat is purchased is what Dezi said: “The instrumental no longer belongs to Shadowville.” If the buyer decided to throw it on a site for F/D, he has the ability to do that, but he cannot re-sell the raw instrumental for profit and credit would still be due on the 'production' side. But, what you're stressing is that you think because many people download the beat before it's bought, that they have the exact same copy someone who buys a lease or the exclusives would have. That's not right. The difference is the quality of instrumental (including track-separations) when the exclusive or lease is bought. Free-downloads are only exloaded, then uploaded to the site as less then 120kb/on an 6-8 dither. Anyone who's purchased exclusives, whether a non-exclusive lease or full license, will tell you the difference in sound quality between both.


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